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17 Reasons Not To enlist In U. S. Military - RI10
posted Tuesday, 5 September 2006
17 Reasons Not To enlist In
U. S. Military - RI10
Here are seventeen reasons I think you should not enlist in the US military and join the Iraq war.
1. You may be killed. Your family, friends and people who love you will have a lifetime of heartache. Any children you would have fathered will be aborted with you.
2. You may be maimed, have one or more limbs amputated or lose half your face or your penis and balls. You will live the rest of your life disabled. You may be so disfigured you will never have sex again. You will be stuck with the bulk of the medical bills. Modern medicine can resuscitate badly maimed people who would have died in previous wars. This means the Iraq war is cranking out an unusually high numbers of seriously maimed people.
3. Many returning from Iraq become mental basket cases unable to deal with the horrors of war and the guilt at what they have done. Friends and family reject them. They can't hold down a job. They become homeless. Look at the way America treats the homeless vets of the Viet Nam and Iraq wars begging on the streets.
4. Over half the soldiers, who served in the Gulf War, died of Gulf War Syndrome or were treated for it. They were in Iraq for only weeks. You will be there years. Read the fine print. Bush is keeping soldiers in Iraq for years after their contract expires. To this day no one knows for sure what causes Gulf War Syndrome.
5. You will be exposed to DU (Depleted Uranium), as were soldiers in the first Gulf War. This may cause cancer later, or even more likely will cause your children and their children to be genetically deformed. Check out the middle part of this video click to watch that shows what sort of children are common to those exposed to the DU-laden winds in Iraq. Imagine explaining to your wife why you did this to her. Also pay attention to parts how can make your wife and family sick indirectly.
6. Iraq is no threat to the USA. You are not defending your country. There were no WMDs. Even Bush admits Iraq had nothing to do with the terrorist attacks on 9/11.
“We have no evidence that Saddam Hussein was involved with the September 11th attacks.”
~ George W. Bush, 2003-09-17, audio.
The USA illegally attacked an unarmed country under false pretenses. The war is about ignoble motives such as oil and world domination. There is utterly no point is you risking your life in Iraq.
7. You will be routinely ordered to kill civilians and children, and commit other violations of the Geneva conventions, according to 12 year Marine Staff Sergeant Jimmy Massey. Once you are in the military, resisting is very difficult. You will be shot or imprisoned, and treated extremely badly if your conscience awakens. American soldiers have already killed 100,000 civilians, mostly children, and that was before Fallujah. You will kill them to. That is what soldiers do, kill people they are ordered to. If you don't believe me, have a long talk with some vets about their experiences. Keep in mind they won't be proud of it, and won't leap to tell you what they have done.
“Patriots always talk of dying for their country and never of killing for their country.”
~ Bertrand Russell
8. There is some chance you may be ordered to guard and torture POWs.
9. If you are very unlucky you may be ordered to participate in the raping of young Iraqi boys and preparing kiddie porn videos of the rapes for Bush.
10. The back door draft. Everyone has been kept in Iraq far longer than the agreed term. If you find it intolerable, there is no way out. You have no idea how long you are really signing up for. Before you sign up, Google for the phrases “back door draft” “stop-loss” to see what a trap you are getting yourself into. Marines who have finished their terms and gone home find that later they are dragged back for involuntary duty.
11. Since Kofi Annan and Boutros Boutros Ghali of the U.N. have declared the Iraq invasion and occupation illegal, you will technically be an international war criminal. This means you may at any time be arrested if you leave the country to travel in a country that subscribes to the International Court in The Hague. The USA may not forever be powerful enough to protect you from prosecution, even on home soil. Everything you do in the Iraq war is illegal since the war itself is illegal. Even if you don't kill, you are still guilty of conspiracy to commit murder, on the same principle the guy who drives the get-away car is guilty of bank robbery. You are in much the same position as a German participating in the invasion of Poland. Recall that some Nazis faced prosecution even into their 90s.
12. The base pay for active duty killing people according to the goarmy.com recruiting site is $14321.00 USD a year for a private E1. Granted there are bonuses such as housing and food, same as you would get in a civilian job outside your home city. You are liable to be shot at 24/7. Presuming you get two promotions to an E3 level, that works out to $47.80 USD a day, or $1.99 USD an hour. If you are a private your pay does not even increase after 6 years of experience. Minimum wage at McDonald's is $5.15 USD an hour. You are an idiot to risk your life for such paltry pay, especially when the work has nothing to do with defending your country. Recently the military has been offering higher and higher one time enlistment bonuses. People now realize they are not signing up to defend their country, so are demanding higher and higher bribes to sell their souls. The very existence of these bonuses indicates that soldiers know full well what a morally sleazy job they are signing up for. People don't need to be bribed to defend their country against a real attack.
13. Iraq is a hot, pestilent, fly-blown, stinking, hellhole.
14. Presuming you are a believer in punishment in the afterlife, since you will be killing innocent civilians, mostly children, you will without doubt be condemning yourself to eternal damnation. That dread will hang over your head the rest of your life.
15. When you get back, your government will treat you like shit. They reneged on veterans’ benefits, housing, health care, rehab…
16. When you return, many people will spit on you and treat you like shit. They will call you “baby killer” and “baby rapist”. You will receive ever-increasing abuse over your lifetime as the horrors and injustice if the Iraq war surfaces. If you travel outside the USA, it will be even worse.
17. Joining the US military is a bit like joining the Mafia or the Bush crime family as an enforcer, or plotting to murder a child. It is not something you should do lightly. You should not do it just because other people told you to, or because the ads were cool, or because it's an easy job to get. You should check out carefully who it is you will be killing and why you are going to kill them. That is your responsibility, not just the president's. Once you are in the military you no longer get to choose who you kill. You are the one who will pull the trigger. You should be sure such murders are necessary, not just that the person you plan to kill “hates America”, which may well be a perfectly rational response after what America did to him, his family and his country and no reason to kill anyone. In Afghanistan, you will find the reason to kill is to guard a pipeline for Unocal and to guard the opium crop for the Bush crime family that, through Afghanistan, now controls 87% of the world's heroin. In Iraq, you are there to steal oil for American oil companies by terrifying the locals through shock & awe into giving it up. You also want to consider the consequences to yourself. You are setting yourself up as a war criminal, same as any Nazi. Iraq is an illegal war. You are potential subject to the same Nuremberg war-crimes trials as the Nazis were. Following orders is no excuse for murder or torture. Also consider the penalty you will take on your physical, mental and spiritual health. Plan enlistment as carefully as you would any other premeditated murder of a stranger.
“Where is it written in the Constitution, in what article or section is it contained, that you may take children from their parents and parents from their children, and compel them to fight the battles of any war in which the folly and wickedness of the government may engage itself? Under what concealment has this power lain hidden, which now for the first time comes forth, with a tremendous and baleful aspect, to trample down and destroy the dearest right of personal liberty? Who will show me any Constitutional injunction which makes it the duty of the American people to surrender everything valuable in life, and even life, itself, whenever the purposes of an ambitious and mischievous government may require it?… A free government with an uncontrolled power of military conscription is the most ridiculous and abominable contradiction and nonsense that ever entered into the heads of men.”
~ Daniel Webster, (1782-1852), US Senator, Speech in the House of Representatives, January 14, 1814
Most likely you will pay no attention to me, and you will sign up anyway. Think of me when you are sitting in Iraq with one eye blasted out like a smashed boiled egg, one leg missing and your penis dangling by a thread of skin. Think of me in the mental hospital when you are afraid to sleep because the nightmares of the kids you slaughtered come to haunt you. Think of me when you are on your deathbed, wondering how you will explain to your maker why you killed all those people. Remember that I told you so. That is your natural punishment for being such a smartass, sadistic little brat.
“In my youth I did that [killed people] for money, and rather enjoyed it. The adrenalin rush, the gamble of life, youngsters tend to be a bit playful [sic] with life.”
~ Jim E, serial murderer, 2005-04-19 in alt.politics.bush, believed living in Seattle, on why he enlisted in the 101Abn.
If you decide to enlist anyway, please ask your Mom to drop me a line when you are killed or rendered a vegetable. I want to celebrate one more sadistic asshole leaving the gene pool.
If you are a parent or relative of someone at risk for enlistment you might want to check out LeaveMyChildAlone.org.
Friends don't let friends drive drunk.
Friends don't let friends take drugs.
Friends don't let friends enlist.
Let Jesse Macbeth, Ranger vet who served in Iraq tell you what it is like. “We would interrogate a family. We'd ask the man of the family a question; if we didn't like his answer, we'd shoot his youngest kid.” The military blog sites claim this tape is phony. click to watch click to watch
http://mindprod.com/politics/iraqdontenlist.html#DONTENLIST
In 1981's 'Body Heat', Kathleen Turner said, "Knowledge is power".
T.A.B.A.C.C.O. (Truth About Business And Congressional Crimes Organization)
U. S. Military - RI10
Don't Enlist
Here are seventeen reasons I think you should not enlist in the US military and join the Iraq war.
1. You may be killed. Your family, friends and people who love you will have a lifetime of heartache. Any children you would have fathered will be aborted with you.
2. You may be maimed, have one or more limbs amputated or lose half your face or your penis and balls. You will live the rest of your life disabled. You may be so disfigured you will never have sex again. You will be stuck with the bulk of the medical bills. Modern medicine can resuscitate badly maimed people who would have died in previous wars. This means the Iraq war is cranking out an unusually high numbers of seriously maimed people.
3. Many returning from Iraq become mental basket cases unable to deal with the horrors of war and the guilt at what they have done. Friends and family reject them. They can't hold down a job. They become homeless. Look at the way America treats the homeless vets of the Viet Nam and Iraq wars begging on the streets.
4. Over half the soldiers, who served in the Gulf War, died of Gulf War Syndrome or were treated for it. They were in Iraq for only weeks. You will be there years. Read the fine print. Bush is keeping soldiers in Iraq for years after their contract expires. To this day no one knows for sure what causes Gulf War Syndrome.
5. You will be exposed to DU (Depleted Uranium), as were soldiers in the first Gulf War. This may cause cancer later, or even more likely will cause your children and their children to be genetically deformed. Check out the middle part of this video click to watch that shows what sort of children are common to those exposed to the DU-laden winds in Iraq. Imagine explaining to your wife why you did this to her. Also pay attention to parts how can make your wife and family sick indirectly.
6. Iraq is no threat to the USA. You are not defending your country. There were no WMDs. Even Bush admits Iraq had nothing to do with the terrorist attacks on 9/11.
“We have no evidence that Saddam Hussein was involved with the September 11th attacks.”
~ George W. Bush, 2003-09-17, audio.
The USA illegally attacked an unarmed country under false pretenses. The war is about ignoble motives such as oil and world domination. There is utterly no point is you risking your life in Iraq.
7. You will be routinely ordered to kill civilians and children, and commit other violations of the Geneva conventions, according to 12 year Marine Staff Sergeant Jimmy Massey. Once you are in the military, resisting is very difficult. You will be shot or imprisoned, and treated extremely badly if your conscience awakens. American soldiers have already killed 100,000 civilians, mostly children, and that was before Fallujah. You will kill them to. That is what soldiers do, kill people they are ordered to. If you don't believe me, have a long talk with some vets about their experiences. Keep in mind they won't be proud of it, and won't leap to tell you what they have done.
“Patriots always talk of dying for their country and never of killing for their country.”
~ Bertrand Russell
8. There is some chance you may be ordered to guard and torture POWs.
9. If you are very unlucky you may be ordered to participate in the raping of young Iraqi boys and preparing kiddie porn videos of the rapes for Bush.
10. The back door draft. Everyone has been kept in Iraq far longer than the agreed term. If you find it intolerable, there is no way out. You have no idea how long you are really signing up for. Before you sign up, Google for the phrases “back door draft” “stop-loss” to see what a trap you are getting yourself into. Marines who have finished their terms and gone home find that later they are dragged back for involuntary duty.
11. Since Kofi Annan and Boutros Boutros Ghali of the U.N. have declared the Iraq invasion and occupation illegal, you will technically be an international war criminal. This means you may at any time be arrested if you leave the country to travel in a country that subscribes to the International Court in The Hague. The USA may not forever be powerful enough to protect you from prosecution, even on home soil. Everything you do in the Iraq war is illegal since the war itself is illegal. Even if you don't kill, you are still guilty of conspiracy to commit murder, on the same principle the guy who drives the get-away car is guilty of bank robbery. You are in much the same position as a German participating in the invasion of Poland. Recall that some Nazis faced prosecution even into their 90s.
12. The base pay for active duty killing people according to the goarmy.com recruiting site is $14321.00 USD a year for a private E1. Granted there are bonuses such as housing and food, same as you would get in a civilian job outside your home city. You are liable to be shot at 24/7. Presuming you get two promotions to an E3 level, that works out to $47.80 USD a day, or $1.99 USD an hour. If you are a private your pay does not even increase after 6 years of experience. Minimum wage at McDonald's is $5.15 USD an hour. You are an idiot to risk your life for such paltry pay, especially when the work has nothing to do with defending your country. Recently the military has been offering higher and higher one time enlistment bonuses. People now realize they are not signing up to defend their country, so are demanding higher and higher bribes to sell their souls. The very existence of these bonuses indicates that soldiers know full well what a morally sleazy job they are signing up for. People don't need to be bribed to defend their country against a real attack.
13. Iraq is a hot, pestilent, fly-blown, stinking, hellhole.
14. Presuming you are a believer in punishment in the afterlife, since you will be killing innocent civilians, mostly children, you will without doubt be condemning yourself to eternal damnation. That dread will hang over your head the rest of your life.
15. When you get back, your government will treat you like shit. They reneged on veterans’ benefits, housing, health care, rehab…
16. When you return, many people will spit on you and treat you like shit. They will call you “baby killer” and “baby rapist”. You will receive ever-increasing abuse over your lifetime as the horrors and injustice if the Iraq war surfaces. If you travel outside the USA, it will be even worse.
17. Joining the US military is a bit like joining the Mafia or the Bush crime family as an enforcer, or plotting to murder a child. It is not something you should do lightly. You should not do it just because other people told you to, or because the ads were cool, or because it's an easy job to get. You should check out carefully who it is you will be killing and why you are going to kill them. That is your responsibility, not just the president's. Once you are in the military you no longer get to choose who you kill. You are the one who will pull the trigger. You should be sure such murders are necessary, not just that the person you plan to kill “hates America”, which may well be a perfectly rational response after what America did to him, his family and his country and no reason to kill anyone. In Afghanistan, you will find the reason to kill is to guard a pipeline for Unocal and to guard the opium crop for the Bush crime family that, through Afghanistan, now controls 87% of the world's heroin. In Iraq, you are there to steal oil for American oil companies by terrifying the locals through shock & awe into giving it up. You also want to consider the consequences to yourself. You are setting yourself up as a war criminal, same as any Nazi. Iraq is an illegal war. You are potential subject to the same Nuremberg war-crimes trials as the Nazis were. Following orders is no excuse for murder or torture. Also consider the penalty you will take on your physical, mental and spiritual health. Plan enlistment as carefully as you would any other premeditated murder of a stranger.
“Where is it written in the Constitution, in what article or section is it contained, that you may take children from their parents and parents from their children, and compel them to fight the battles of any war in which the folly and wickedness of the government may engage itself? Under what concealment has this power lain hidden, which now for the first time comes forth, with a tremendous and baleful aspect, to trample down and destroy the dearest right of personal liberty? Who will show me any Constitutional injunction which makes it the duty of the American people to surrender everything valuable in life, and even life, itself, whenever the purposes of an ambitious and mischievous government may require it?… A free government with an uncontrolled power of military conscription is the most ridiculous and abominable contradiction and nonsense that ever entered into the heads of men.”
~ Daniel Webster, (1782-1852), US Senator, Speech in the House of Representatives, January 14, 1814
Most likely you will pay no attention to me, and you will sign up anyway. Think of me when you are sitting in Iraq with one eye blasted out like a smashed boiled egg, one leg missing and your penis dangling by a thread of skin. Think of me in the mental hospital when you are afraid to sleep because the nightmares of the kids you slaughtered come to haunt you. Think of me when you are on your deathbed, wondering how you will explain to your maker why you killed all those people. Remember that I told you so. That is your natural punishment for being such a smartass, sadistic little brat.
“In my youth I did that [killed people] for money, and rather enjoyed it. The adrenalin rush, the gamble of life, youngsters tend to be a bit playful [sic] with life.”
~ Jim E, serial murderer, 2005-04-19 in alt.politics.bush, believed living in Seattle, on why he enlisted in the 101Abn.
If you decide to enlist anyway, please ask your Mom to drop me a line when you are killed or rendered a vegetable. I want to celebrate one more sadistic asshole leaving the gene pool.
If you are a parent or relative of someone at risk for enlistment you might want to check out LeaveMyChildAlone.org.
Friends don't let friends drive drunk.
Friends don't let friends take drugs.
Friends don't let friends enlist.
Let Jesse Macbeth, Ranger vet who served in Iraq tell you what it is like. “We would interrogate a family. We'd ask the man of the family a question; if we didn't like his answer, we'd shoot his youngest kid.” The military blog sites claim this tape is phony. click to watch click to watch
http://mindprod.com/politics/iraqdontenlist.html#DONTENLIST
In 1981's 'Body Heat', Kathleen Turner said, "Knowledge is power".
T.A.B.A.C.C.O. (Truth About Business And Congressional Crimes Organization)
comments (3)
1. Tabacco left...
Wednesday, 6 September 2006 6:55 pm :: http://tabacco.blog-city.com/
Among Those Who Believe Saddam Hussein Was Personally Involved In 9/11:
2. Tabacco left...
Thursday, 7 September 2006 10:36 am :: http://tabacco.blog-city.com/
Reason No. 18- Re: Can a civilian sue the Government?
The Ferris doctrine does not allow you to sue the government for injuries a
soldier sustains while on active duty. Although there has been several
attempts to repeal this doctrine currently it will not allow you to
prevail.
http://www.lawguru.com/cgi/bbs/mesg.cgi?i=509210701
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BLITZER: It's a story about war, drugs and the war on drugs. In Afghanistan, some say profits from opium production are being put in the pockets of terrorists. The United Nations wants NATO to take action to destroy the opium crops. One U.N. officials says crushing the crops is important to crushing the Taliban and restoring order. For more, let's go to the scene, CNN senior international correspondent Nic Robertson is there in Afghanistan. How bad is this drug situation where you are in Afghanistan, Nic? NIC ROBERTSON, CNN SR. INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Wolf, it's bad. The drug production here has gone up 50 percent. This country's produces 92 percent of the world's opium. It overproduced the world's need by one-third this year. The value to the farmers here is about $3 billion. It's half the country's GDP, and it's estimated from several sources that the Taliban here could be getting as much as one-third of that money. The Taliban could be making as much as $1 billion from the poppy cultivation, Wolf. BLITZER: Why is the Afghan government apparently incapable of doing anything about this? ROBERTSON: Wolf, they've got a Counter-Narcotics Ministry. It is not powerful. They don't have a big army. They're training counter-narcotics officials. The bottom line is, when these counter- narcotics officials go out, they're intimidated in the villages and the farms that they go to by the Taliban, they're intimidated when they go home to their families at night. They can't do their job. It's a very tough situation. There isn't the security to enforce the measures necessary to eradicate the poppies. BLITZER: The sale of heroin in the streets of major cities and the around the United States, I take it that some of that money winds up in the hands of people in Afghanistan including the Taliban. There's a direct connection there, isn't there? ROBERTSON: Absolutely, there's a direct connection. I was speaking with a senior U.S. military commander. He has no doubt that the Taliban are making money out of the opium poppies. He has no doubt that that money buys the weapons that are being fired at his troops. But right now the U.S. troops in this country don't have a mandate to go down and eradicate the poppies. I have been there when they have driven part of the poppy fields. It's not part of their mission right now, Wolf. BLITZER: So if Afghanistan winds up a failed narco state -- and that's a dreadful thought given the investment since 9/11, the troops the U.S. has deployed there. I guess people there would suffer, but people all over the world, including here in the United States would suffer, as well. ROBERTSON: Absolutely, Wolf. People here will suffer. There's over 100,000 heroin addicts here now. It wasn't the case before. It would be a threat to the countries bordering Afghanistan, because there would be instability as we're seeing now with the Taliban. And Afghanistan is a partner on the war on terror, but they would be -- the country would be funding part of the terror campaign, funding the Taliban. It wouldn't be good for the rest of the world -- Wolf. BLITZER: Nic, thanks very much. Nic's going to have a lot more on this story coming up at 10:00 p.m. Eastern on "ANDERSON COOPER 360," Anderson reporting live from Afghanistan. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0609/13/sitroom.03.html
Wednesday, 13 September 2006 6:59 pm :: http://tabacco.blog-city.com/
File this under "Poetic Justice" or "You Reap What You Sow":
BLITZER: It's a story about war, drugs and the war on drugs. In Afghanistan, some say profits from opium production are being put in the pockets of terrorists. The United Nations wants NATO to take action to destroy the opium crops. One U.N. officials says crushing the crops is important to crushing the Taliban and restoring order. For more, let's go to the scene, CNN senior international correspondent Nic Robertson is there in Afghanistan. How bad is this drug situation where you are in Afghanistan, Nic? NIC ROBERTSON, CNN SR. INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Wolf, it's bad. The drug production here has gone up 50 percent. This country's produces 92 percent of the world's opium. It overproduced the world's need by one-third this year. The value to the farmers here is about $3 billion. It's half the country's GDP, and it's estimated from several sources that the Taliban here could be getting as much as one-third of that money. The Taliban could be making as much as $1 billion from the poppy cultivation, Wolf. BLITZER: Why is the Afghan government apparently incapable of doing anything about this? ROBERTSON: Wolf, they've got a Counter-Narcotics Ministry. It is not powerful. They don't have a big army. They're training counter-narcotics officials. The bottom line is, when these counter- narcotics officials go out, they're intimidated in the villages and the farms that they go to by the Taliban, they're intimidated when they go home to their families at night. They can't do their job. It's a very tough situation. There isn't the security to enforce the measures necessary to eradicate the poppies. BLITZER: The sale of heroin in the streets of major cities and the around the United States, I take it that some of that money winds up in the hands of people in Afghanistan including the Taliban. There's a direct connection there, isn't there? ROBERTSON: Absolutely, there's a direct connection. I was speaking with a senior U.S. military commander. He has no doubt that the Taliban are making money out of the opium poppies. He has no doubt that that money buys the weapons that are being fired at his troops. But right now the U.S. troops in this country don't have a mandate to go down and eradicate the poppies. I have been there when they have driven part of the poppy fields. It's not part of their mission right now, Wolf. BLITZER: So if Afghanistan winds up a failed narco state -- and that's a dreadful thought given the investment since 9/11, the troops the U.S. has deployed there. I guess people there would suffer, but people all over the world, including here in the United States would suffer, as well. ROBERTSON: Absolutely, Wolf. People here will suffer. There's over 100,000 heroin addicts here now. It wasn't the case before. It would be a threat to the countries bordering Afghanistan, because there would be instability as we're seeing now with the Taliban. And Afghanistan is a partner on the war on terror, but they would be -- the country would be funding part of the terror campaign, funding the Taliban. It wouldn't be good for the rest of the world -- Wolf. BLITZER: Nic, thanks very much. Nic's going to have a lot more on this story coming up at 10:00 p.m. Eastern on "ANDERSON COOPER 360," Anderson reporting live from Afghanistan. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0609/13/sitroom.03.html