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3 Years of Strict Atkins Dieting, A Net Loss 18 Lbs And The Gout – No Thank You!

posted Saturday, 24 September 2005

3 Years of Strict Atkins Dieting,
 
A Net Loss 18 Lbs And The Gout
 
– No Thank You!

 

Yes, I was taken in on this one - I admit it; I was dead wrong! Now I’m paying for my error - I have gout!

This story begins in 1981 & Ralph’s (a friend) advice. I was carrying 175 pounds on my 5-foot, 7.5-inch frame. I wanted to get below 150 pounds. When I graduated from high school, I weighed 145.

At first, despite a diet consisting almost exclusively of meat, eggs and cheese and excluding bread, vegetables and fruits, I lost not one ounce. Ralph couldn’t understand, and I was becoming dubious. Ralph and I examined every morsel of my intake for the previous 3 weeks. No, I wasn’t doing anything wrong.

“Well, Tabacco, what are you drinking?”

“I imbibed nothing but water and a quart of grapefruit juice every day”, I proudly recounted.

“Grapefruit Juice!” He shrieked. “No wonder you haven’t lost any weight. You can’t drink grapefruit juice”.

So I stopped drinking the stuff, and the 25.5 pounds, that I wanted to lose, virtually melted off overnight. It worked!

I had paid Barney’s already for 2 Pierre Cardin 3-piece suits, but declined to be measured for them until I achieved my weight goal. I reached 149.5lbs; I was measured, and the suits were mine (a gray pinstripe and a dark blue chalk stripe - both wool).

Of course I forgot about the “Atkins”, and in no time at all I weighed 185 pounds.

Over the years I worked out with weights (I was a rather good athlete in my day). I stopped working out. I started working out again. I stopped again. Each time I stopped working out, I probably gained 20 pounds.

I finally bought a new bathroom scale on July 14, 2002. The old one had long since been thrown away. I weighed 244.5 pounds! I dusted off the Atkins and the weight began coming off, not as quickly as in 1981, but 1-1.5 pounds per month on average.

By August 13, 2004, I weighed 211 pounds - a net loss of 33.5 pounds in 2 years and 1 month.

But, by April of 2005, the “Atkins” was in remission, and regardless of how few “carbs” I took in, I was gaining weight.

I had created a computer database on July 14, 2002, to keep track of all my carbs, then subsequently added "fields" for the categories of fiber, sodium and cholesterol.

If I went “carb-crazy” on one particular day and consumed 60 to 90 grams of carbohydrates, I immediately cut back to the 20-25 gram level. I was dogged, persistent and conscientious.

Concurrent with the creation of the database, I also created a spreadsheet to visualize my totals in all these categories by the day and the month. Note: I have never counted calories.

Still, beginning around November of 2004, my weight began spiraling upwards. (If you are saying to yourself, “I bet he doesn’t have a spreadsheet for his weight fluctuations”, you’d be dead wrong!)

On March 26, 2005, I reached 227 pounds exactly. I was in a state of anguish. After 2 years, 8 months and 12 days, I had lost the net total of 17.5 pounds.

In March I talked with my brother, Ralph, in Cincinnati. He is the eldest brother. He was in a wheelchair with gout. I had heard of gout, but I didn’t know beans about it. I do now!

Ralph explained to me in great detail what it was, how it felt, and why my eating habits (mostly protein) most certainly would doom me to his fate.

Well, dear Readers, it didn’t take long. On May 26th, 2005, I had my first introduction to Mr. Gout! I just looked at my records. May 26th was the last day I ate a pan-seared burger, I had gotten back down to 217 pounds by the next morning (courtesy of Mr. Atkins), and - oh yes - I wrote down the date.

I had cramps in both feet, both forearms, calves, leg biceps, lower frontal leg muscles, toes - not all at the same time, but ever since in one or more of the aforementioned locations whenever I stray from my new diet – “eat anything I want, but careful with the meat”.

I crawled around on the floor for 4 days because the pain in the bottom of my right foot was so excruciating, I couldn’t walk on it. A dear friend, Odessa, in Cincinnati sent me a crutch, which came too late to help me during those 4 days.

I get pain in my joints, especially the backs of both knees. Sometimes I can’t distinguish between straight pain and cramps - they both hurt a lot.

I say otherwise, but my main motivation for going on the Atkins in the first place was vanity.

Since I dropped Atkins and began my “eat anything” diet, I have eaten a few 40-ounce cans of yams in one day with butter, 1-cup of brown sugar, and a whole bag of marshmallows – the ones I couldn’t fit into the casserole dish, I ate as is.

I have eaten pasta, fruit everyday including bananas, strawberries, grapes, blueberries, peaches and plums. I eat humongous cans of Bush’s Baked Beans. I eat waffles, homemade ice cream, lemon curd meringue pie (which will appear in a future blog article), and when I buy sandwiches at Checkers and McDonalds, I don’t throw the bun away – I eat it.

I know your question already, “How much weight have you gained, Tabacco?”

The answer is 19 pounds from the 217 I weighed on May 27th of this year – but I didn’t gain 19 pounds, I LOST 19 POUNDS since I went off the Atkins diet. I now weigh 198 pounds. Go figure! I will admit that I have cut back on the volume of food. For a while, the more I ate, the more I lost – probably carryover from the Atkins. But then I started gaining again. I went from 199 to 205 in about a week. So I cut back on the quantity, and 10 days later I am at 198.

I now know that I can reverse a weight gain if I have one. I know I can do it without Mr. Atkins. And I know I definitely need to watch the protein intake. Don’t worry; when I stray on the protein, Mr. Gout whacks me on the feet or legs.

My ultimate goal is 180 to 185 pounds or until I like looking at myself in the mirror while standing sideways.

T.A.B.A.C.C.O. (Truth About Business And Congressional Crimes Organization)

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1. Diane Durbin left...
Monday, 20 October 2008 9:11 am

My son-in-law swears by pink grapefruit juice to cure gout. My son stopped by the house and was limping from gout. My SIL, a football coach who likes his beer, told him the "cure" is simple-get two large containers of PINK grapefruit juice and flush your system, it works for me everytime. " Sure enough after forcing the juice, the gout went away. Now they both swear by it. Definitely worth a try.


2. Tabacco left...
Monday, 20 October 2008 1:40 pm :: http://tabacco.blog-city.com/

Pink Grapefruit Juice, Huh? Hmmm!

Pink Grapefruit Juice CAN'T hurt! It is full of Carbs. When I first tried the Low-Carb Diet in 1981, I didn't lose an ounce. My Dieting Guru and friend, Ralph, questioned me in detail about my eating habits. No problem. Then he asked me what I drank. I told him a quart of Grapefruit Juice everyday.

"That's the problem!", he intoned. You can't do "Low Carb" with that much grapefruit juice. I stopped drinking the grapefruit juice, and the weight started to come off. But my diet in 1981 only lasted a few months, not 3 years as it did from 02-05. Incidentally, after I went off the Diet in 81, got fitted for my 2 Pierre Cardin suits, the weight came right back plus about 10 extra pounds almost immediately.

So it isn't so much the Pink Grapefruit Juice as it is all those carbohydrates, regardless of the source. When you eat or drink Carbs, you are NOT focusing on Seafood, Peanuts, Meat and Dairy, which is where the Protein Only lies. You could do just as well with non-pink Grapefruit Juice, but the Pink tastes better to me. That may explain why it worked so fast. We tend to eat and drink things we like best.

This Saturday and Sunday I drank 1.75 liters of Simply Orange juice. That comes to 182 grams of Carbs per day. I no longer suffer from Gout either. I eat less and cut back on pies and cakes. But 300 Carb grams per day is not unusual for Tabacco these days.

Thanks for the input and warmest regards,

Tabacco


3. hswitall left...
Monday, 10 November 2008 5:05 pm

"At first, despite a diet consisting almost exclusively of meat, eggs and cheese and excluding bread, vegetables and fruits, I lost not one ounce. Ralph couldn’t understand, and I was becoming dubious. Ralph and I examined every morsel of my intake for the previous 3 weeks. No, I wasn’t doing anything wrong."

Yes, you were - and I'm not just talking about the grapefruit juice. You were doing everything wrong. NOWHERE in any of Dr. Atkins' books does it say you should not be eating vegetables. Quite the opposite in fact! It is so frustrating to hear so much criticism about this diet from people who have never done it properly.

I am sorry to hear about your health problems. They may or may not have been affected by your way of eating. I refuse to believe they were caused by Atkins, since you weren't doing "Atkins" at all!


4. Tabacco left...
Monday, 10 November 2008 5:37 pm :: http://tabacco.blog-city.com/

I never said I was. I didn't even read Atkins. I used the name because it is so prevalent and recognizable. However recently I did purchase an Atkins book and found it totally unreasonable. I am not going to follow such a regimen and prepare what somebody else says I should eat for breakfast, lunch and dinner. I don't know how many women would, but I don't believe any man would.

What I did was exaggerate the low-carb diet, and I paid for it. But the concept flies in the face of experience. Athletes, including marathon runners, do carb-loading prior to performing. If carbs are good for them, why would they be bad for everyone else. If one bottle of grapefruit juice a day prevents weight loss on the low-carb diet, I want no part of it.

And I didn't even mention Dr. Stillman and Jim Fixx. So don't preach the virtues of Atkins to me because I ain't buying it!

Tabacco


5. hswitall left...
Tuesday, 11 November 2008 3:15 pm

Thank you for your response. I agree with several of your points, however you have touched on the point that needs addressing most: carbs are not bad for you, and nobody sane or responsible ever said they were. An excess of carbs is bad for you, as is an excess of fat, or protein, or booze, or anything else, really. And heavily refined carbs such as sugar and white flour- the types of things that Atkins (and every other healthy eating plan out there) recommend cutting out - are not required in the diet nor beneficial to it. Whole, natural carbs, such as those from vegetables and fruit, are perfectly healthy for you.

On the other hand, it is common sense, or should be, that too few carbs, too little fat, too few calories are equally as bad for you in the long run as a diet that is too high in any one of these things. Balance should be the key. And to the critics of Atkins, I say look beyond the first 14 day Induction period where carbs are limited to a very low amount. After those two weeks, you are gradually getting things back into a more "traditional" balance.

The Atkins approach may not be the one for you, and I can totally respect that as there is no one way of eating that will work for everyone. A low fat and low calorie regimen, while being successful in that it allowed me to lose weight, left me with dry hair and skin , freezing cold extremeties all the time, I was listless and unenergetic, hungry all the time, and obsessed with food.

On the Atkins diet, I find I have energy to spare, I'm not hungry - so much that I forget to eat meals sometimes - and I am eating MORE vegetables than on some other plans. And when I worked it out, guess what? I'm eating the same number of calories as I was on the low-cal, low-fat diet. Weird, eh? No diet can violate the laws of thermodynamics, IMHO - calories in still have to be less than calories out for weight loss to occur.

My point in this long diatribe is simply that too many people criticize the diet when they haven't taken the time to understand it. If more people sat down and read the book, and used a little common sense before embarking on a new eating plan with little more knowledge than, "My buddy/sister/friend/barista says I can eat all the bacon I want and still lose weight!" they would be better off.

So really, I'm not preaching the benefits of Atkins. I'm preaching the benefits of being properly informed about any nutritional program you may choose to undertake rather than starting it off fueled by rumours and misinformation. Your health AND your weight will thank you.


6. Tabacco left...
Tuesday, 11 November 2008 4:27 pm :: http://tabacco.blog-city.com/

Your reply is very intelligent and in concert with what the Atkins book, I finally bought, says. The problem is this: I am a fairly intelligent guy, and I overdid it. Lots of people will. "If 1 is good, then 2 is better". That's the problem with Diets & Diet Gurus. Most people cannot afford to buy the book, let alone the expensive foods, videos, exercise equipment etc etc. Most people do it on the fly as I did.

Friends have asked me to show them how to use their new DVD recorder, new cellphone, new VCR etc because they were too lazy to read the manual themselves.

You may have gotten off scot-free so far, but cutting down on carbs leaves you only 2 choices: fat and protein! I didn't say "cut out", I said "cut down"! My brother, who has never dieted, let alone Low-Carb dieted, has Gout and is in a wheelchair. Whereas I no longer have any symptoms, he does. But he says to me, "I've got to have my meat!"

I've discussed this with hospital doctors and nurses. I discussed it with the people in the Select Study Program (a double blind study that just finished) at Stony Brook University. Low Carb dieting is UNHEALTHY! You forget, unlike me, Dr. Atkins made money out of hawking his books. Without Low-Carb, he might have been poor - he certainly would not have been famous. Whenever someone profits from the information they give you, you must not accept that info on face value. I DON'T GET PAID FOR WRITING THIS BLOG! I can be wrong, but I cannot deliberately withhold necessary information to preserve my personal income because this blog DOESN'T GIVE ME A DIME!

I warn people about lots of things. I borrow from others, use logic & personal experience, and draw conclusions wherever possible. I don't always arrive at conclusions because sometimes the answer is too obtuse.

Most important is this: when I first tried the "Atkins" or Low-Carb, after I stopped drinking the grapefruit juice, I lost 25 pounds and reached 149.5. I got measured for my 2 Pierre Cardin suits at Barneys New York. I went off my "bastardized" diet and immediately gained back all the weight I lost plus 10-15 more.

When I got gout in 2005 I think, I stopped Low-Carbing and my diet, which wasn't working anymore, kicked in when I stopped dieting and I went from 218 or thereabouts to 190. And that's while eating cake, pie, ice cream and anything else I felt like. Of course that didn't last. And I am dieting now after I weighed in at 263 in July. But I watch the amount I eat. Some days I eat 300 carbs, but I can put on my shoes and socks now. And I can get up off the couch without first rolling over onto the floor on my stomach and pushing myself up as I had to a few months ago.

This diet is sane. I still eat carbs, pie, cake, doughnuts etc - just not all the time. And I'm losing weight! You do as you like, but I will never again advise any of my Readers to pursue some silly "Fad" such as low-carb dieting, regardless of who stands to lose income from it.

I notice you ignored my comment about the two famous "Atkins" devotees, who died prematurely because of it. No, I can't prove that and wouldn't bother to try. But I know they did! And so does anybody else not suffering from Cognitive Dissonance.

Thanks for your intelligent input though, Respectfully, Tabacco

PS Not everybody can do what others do. Some cannot eat peanuts (which incidentally are loaded with carbs). Some can't live in humid climates. And some gain weight while eating the same as others who lose weight.


7. hswitall left...
Tuesday, 11 November 2008 5:32 pm

Again thanks for replying, I love a lively discussion about this sort of thing. I can't make any comments about the gout because I don't know enough about it. However, if low-carbing exacerbates (or causes, who knows) your symptoms, I would say you would be a fool to do it! So kudos to you for recognizing that diet is a factor in these things, and taking steps to improve your health. Too many people would just look for drugs to make them feel better and not even consider what they are eating.

I only ignored your comment about those two folks because I didn't know their deaths were attributed to Atkins, in all honesty. However, you'll recall that Dr. Atkins' own death was also attributed to the Atkins diet by the media - reports which later turned out to be false.

You're right about there being a lot of "gurus" out there shilling a lot of crap to a public that is obsessed with dieting. So while I personally can't agree with you that low-carbing is unhealthy (when done properly, and there are many who would argue there is no "properly", I know), I am grateful for blogs like this which give people a first-hand opinion of their experiences. I only aim to show the other side of the coin, not to say you are wrong ;)

Cheers.


8. Tabacco left...
Tuesday, 11 November 2008 7:57 pm :: http://tabacco.blog-city.com/

I only wish you would read my political Posts and comment there. It is so rare to receive a comment from an intelligent person. I don't publish many of the comments I get because they have nothing to say.

We really must stop this "love in", but I am thrilled to converse with a thinking person. That's what I hoped for when I started this stuff.

Sorry about my sloppiness - you were correct of course that I never did "Atkins". However, I stick by my words that reducing carbohydrates leaves you with protein (too much leads to gout) and fat (which scares everybody).

And animal products (protein and fat) are more dangerous than plants (carbs and protein). That's why vegetarians exist. I have honest fear of proteins now - enough to modify my intake.

Have you checked out my "Turkey in a Sac" recipe (Nov. 2, 2008)?

Regards, Tabacco


9. hswitall left...
Wednesday, 12 November 2008 2:49 pm

LOL, "Love in," haven't heard that in a while.

I am happy to concede that a low carb lifestyle didn't work for you; it doesn't work for many and I'm sure has caused many health problems in many people. Since it does seem to be agreeing with me, I'll keep at it until I find otherwise.

To be honest I do a lot more reading about nutrition than I do about politics. (The political landscape up here in Canada is much less interesting than the one in the States I'm sure) but what the heck, I'll give it a shot.

You have also piqued my interest with this Turkey in a Sac business, will have to check it out. Thanks again for writing back; so much more fun to comment when the reader fights -- er, writes! - back.