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Blairwatch Update- UK Government Gives Craig Murray Ultimatum: Remove These Documents By 4pm, July 10, 2006, Brit Time Or Pay Consequences! - RI10
posted Sunday, 9 July 2006
Blairwatch Update-
UK Government Gives
Craig Murray Ultimatum:
Remove These Documents
By 4pm, July 10, 2006,
Brit Time Or Pay Consequences!
- RI10
The Tony Blair British Government is trying to silence Dissent just as the George W. Bush United States Government is attempting to do. To date, Tabacco has not been THROWN INTO JAIL FOR PUBLISHING THE TRUTH. Who knows what will happen tomorrow. I think you are all aware what the Bush government is attempting to do to STIFLE THE NEW YORK TIMES and others.
Tabacco received the following email this AM. Of course I am publishing it. To paraphrase Nathan Hale, who said,
“I only regret that I have but one life to give for my country.”
Nathan Hale quotes (American Soldier and Revolutionary officer who attempted to spy on the British and was hanged. 1755-1776)
Tabacco says, “I only regret that I have but one life to give for my planet.”
Like it or not, we are all united by treachery, hatred, love and brotherhood. Democracy cannot long survive in America if it dies in Britain.
The email:
From: Blairwatch I'll Publish <publish@blairwatch.co.uk>
Date: Saturday, July 8, 2006 6:49 PM
To: Blairwatch I'll Publish publish@blairwatch.co.uk
Subject: More Documents from Craig Murray: Bloggers, You Know What to do!
Dear all,
This mail does not concern the al-Jazeera Memo, your pledge to publish
it being the reason your email address is on this list, but another plea
for help from Craig Murray.
For those of you not familiar with him, Craig was formerly the British
Ambassador to Uzbekistan, until he took a stand over our use of
intelligence obtained by torture that is.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_Murray
The British government have been trying to silence Craig since his
departure from the Foreign Office, and many of you on this mailing list
did a superb Job of publicising the documents he released over Christmas
when the government threatened him with the Official Secrets Act.
Craig's book, Murder in Samarkand has just been published.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/1845961943/026-4266193-9868425?v=glance&n=266239
This has happened despite the best efforts of the British Government to
suppress it. In support of the points he makes in his book, Craig has
published a number of documents online that the British Government does
not want you to see.
http://dahrjamailiraq.com/murray/
http://www.craigmurray.co.uk/documents/docs.html
http://www.blairwatch.co.uk/murray/docs.html
Yesterday Craig received a letter [attached] from lawyers acting on
behalf of the Foreign Office demanding that he remove the documents from
his website by 4pm Monday 10th July or he will be issued with a high
court injunction.
[We at Blairwatch are awaiting our letter.]
Do take the time to have a look through the documents. The above link to
Dahr Jamail's website is likely to be the most stable mirror to link to
as Craig and ourselves are located in the UK and therefore within the
reach of the British courts.
If you feel that this information is something that should not be taken
offline by Monday, well, you know what to do...
ringverse
www.blairwatch.co.uk
The following is from Craig Murray:
========================================
I am sorry to trouble you, but believe that we now face a threat both to
the Web and to Freedom of Information in the UK which must be
challenged. The British government is arguing that government
documents, even if released under the Freedom of Information Act or Data
Protection Act, cannot be published, on the web or elsewhere, as they
remain Crown Copyright. They have required me to remove documents from
my website on that basis, under threat of legal action - see the
attached letter from the Treasury solicitors.
If you think about it for a moment, the government could thus cancel out
almost the whole purpose of the Freedom of Information Act; information
released would be just for the private use of an individual. Newspapers
- or bloggers - could not publish it in any detail.
If accepted, this extraordinary use of copyright could keep literally
everything - everything - produced by government a secret.
The documents in question are the supporting evidence for my book,
Murder in Samarkand, which has just been released. The government
continues to claim my story is untrue. There is one important advance
in all this. Up until now the government refused to acknowledge the
documents were authentic. Now Buttrill's letter specifically
acknowledges all of the documents and claims copyright over them.
Some of these documents have already been published widely on the web
(not least due to the efforts of many of you on this list), particularly the "Tashkent telegrams" on CIA and MI6 use of intelligence obtained under torture in UZBEKISTAN." Those are now admitted as authentic.
Some are new to the web. Perhaps the most important is the chart of the
changes the British Government insisted be made to the book. These are
extremely revealing for what they admit to be true - for example, only
minor changes are requested in the key meeting between senior officials
on the legality of using intelligence from torture, at which it was
confirmed that this is US and UK policy.
Perhaps still more revealing is the insistence on removal of the
assertion that "Colin Powell knowingly lied" when he claimed that bombs
in Tashkent were the work of al-Qaida. The British government insisted
on removal not because it was untrue - as detailed in the book, they
know full well it is true - but because it would "Damage UK-US relations".
The changes requested were made in the book, because my publisher would
not publish without. That is why the truth needs to be out there on the
web.
It is on the face of it very strange that the British Government is
going after me over the Copyright Act and not the Official Secrets Act.
The answer is simple - under the Copyright Act there is no jury. A jury
would never convict for campaigning against torture, and be most
unlikely to accept that documents released cannot be published. The
table of changes requested by the government is not even a classified
document in the first place. But a single judge may be more malleable -
John Reid had put a huge effort lately into browbeating judges over
anything connected to the so-called War on Terror. As the government
know very well I have no money to pay a small, or even large fine, they
can get the book and documents banned and me in jail without having to
convince any jury of pesky citizens.
How to fight back?
Well, we must not let the documents disappear from the web. There is as
yet no legal ruling on these matters, Mr. Buttrill's claims are only
highly controversial legal contentions. So if you post the documents
pending a court ruling, there is a danger you may be contravening the -
civil, not criminal - law, but then again you may not. You would quite
likely receive a threatening letter from Mr. Buttrill. Now you have this
email from me, NSA and GCHQ are almost certainly tracking you, (they
can, incidentally, reciprocally spy in the other country for each other
and then swap the info, because neither needs a warrant to spy abroad),
but then they probably were already.
The publisher had firm and very expensive legal advice that it was not
contravening any civil or criminal law to publish in the book links to
web pages containing the documents. So you are almost certainly on safe
legal ground in publishing this link to the Dahr Jamail site if you do
not wish to mirror the docs yourself.
http://dahrjamailiraq.com/murray/
Feel free to publish this email and the letter from Mr. Buttrill [attached].
It might also be helpful if we urged people to contact him, by phone,
email or letter, and ask him complex questions about the fascinating and
difficult legal and ethical questions thrown up by the government's
position. As a government servant he's obliged to reply.
Finally, the government made plain to parliament that it would act
against the book itself if it was published. As it only came out on
Friday, no injunction yet but it could happen any time. So if you are
interested in getting it, buy now and beat the injunctions! It is
available from most online booksellers, though bookshops seem very
reluctant to stock it.
Many Thanks,
Craig Murray
========================================
As ever, if your name is on this list in error, or you wish to have your
email address removed from this list, please let us know.
--
ringverse
www.blairwatch.co.uk
The Letter Received By Craig Murray From Blair’s Government
I began this Post with a quotation from an American Hero and Martyr, Nathan Hale. To end this Post, I republish the following quotations from another American Hero, Patrick Henry. All quotations from Hale and Henry can be found at
“The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government - lest it come to dominate our lives and interests.”
Patrick Henry quote
“The liberties of a people never were, nor ever will be, secure, when the transactions of their rulers may be concealed from them.”
Patrick Henry quote
“Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains or slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take but as for me; give me liberty or give me death!”
Patrick Henry quote
“If this be treason, make the most of it!”
Patrick Henry quote
In 1981's 'Body Heat', Kathleen Turner said, "Knowledge is power".
T.A.B.A.C.C.O. (Truth About Business And Congressional Crimes Organization)
UK Government Gives
Craig Murray Ultimatum:
Remove These Documents
By 4pm, July 10, 2006,
Brit Time Or Pay Consequences!
- RI10
The Tony Blair British Government is trying to silence Dissent just as the George W. Bush United States Government is attempting to do. To date, Tabacco has not been THROWN INTO JAIL FOR PUBLISHING THE TRUTH. Who knows what will happen tomorrow. I think you are all aware what the Bush government is attempting to do to STIFLE THE NEW YORK TIMES and others.
Tabacco received the following email this AM. Of course I am publishing it. To paraphrase Nathan Hale, who said,
“I only regret that I have but one life to give for my country.”
Nathan Hale quotes (American Soldier and Revolutionary officer who attempted to spy on the British and was hanged. 1755-1776)
Tabacco says, “I only regret that I have but one life to give for my planet.”
Like it or not, we are all united by treachery, hatred, love and brotherhood. Democracy cannot long survive in America if it dies in Britain.
The email:
From: Blairwatch I'll Publish <publish@blairwatch.co.uk>
Date: Saturday, July 8, 2006 6:49 PM
To: Blairwatch I'll Publish publish@blairwatch.co.uk
Subject: More Documents from Craig Murray: Bloggers, You Know What to do!
Dear all,
This mail does not concern the al-Jazeera Memo, your pledge to publish
it being the reason your email address is on this list, but another plea
for help from Craig Murray.
For those of you not familiar with him, Craig was formerly the British
Ambassador to Uzbekistan, until he took a stand over our use of
intelligence obtained by torture that is.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_Murray
The British government have been trying to silence Craig since his
departure from the Foreign Office, and many of you on this mailing list
did a superb Job of publicising the documents he released over Christmas
when the government threatened him with the Official Secrets Act.
Craig's book, Murder in Samarkand has just been published.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/1845961943/026-4266193-9868425?v=glance&n=266239
This has happened despite the best efforts of the British Government to
suppress it. In support of the points he makes in his book, Craig has
published a number of documents online that the British Government does
not want you to see.
http://dahrjamailiraq.com/murray/
http://www.craigmurray.co.uk/documents/docs.html
http://www.blairwatch.co.uk/murray/docs.html
Yesterday Craig received a letter [attached] from lawyers acting on
behalf of the Foreign Office demanding that he remove the documents from
his website by 4pm Monday 10th July or he will be issued with a high
court injunction.
[We at Blairwatch are awaiting our letter.]
Do take the time to have a look through the documents. The above link to
Dahr Jamail's website is likely to be the most stable mirror to link to
as Craig and ourselves are located in the UK and therefore within the
reach of the British courts.
If you feel that this information is something that should not be taken
offline by Monday, well, you know what to do...
ringverse
www.blairwatch.co.uk
The following is from Craig Murray:
========================================
I am sorry to trouble you, but believe that we now face a threat both to
the Web and to Freedom of Information in the UK which must be
challenged. The British government is arguing that government
documents, even if released under the Freedom of Information Act or Data
Protection Act, cannot be published, on the web or elsewhere, as they
remain Crown Copyright. They have required me to remove documents from
my website on that basis, under threat of legal action - see the
attached letter from the Treasury solicitors.
If you think about it for a moment, the government could thus cancel out
almost the whole purpose of the Freedom of Information Act; information
released would be just for the private use of an individual. Newspapers
- or bloggers - could not publish it in any detail.
If accepted, this extraordinary use of copyright could keep literally
everything - everything - produced by government a secret.
The documents in question are the supporting evidence for my book,
Murder in Samarkand, which has just been released. The government
continues to claim my story is untrue. There is one important advance
in all this. Up until now the government refused to acknowledge the
documents were authentic. Now Buttrill's letter specifically
acknowledges all of the documents and claims copyright over them.
Some of these documents have already been published widely on the web
(not least due to the efforts of many of you on this list), particularly the "Tashkent telegrams" on CIA and MI6 use of intelligence obtained under torture in UZBEKISTAN." Those are now admitted as authentic.
Some are new to the web. Perhaps the most important is the chart of the
changes the British Government insisted be made to the book. These are
extremely revealing for what they admit to be true - for example, only
minor changes are requested in the key meeting between senior officials
on the legality of using intelligence from torture, at which it was
confirmed that this is US and UK policy.
Perhaps still more revealing is the insistence on removal of the
assertion that "Colin Powell knowingly lied" when he claimed that bombs
in Tashkent were the work of al-Qaida. The British government insisted
on removal not because it was untrue - as detailed in the book, they
know full well it is true - but because it would "Damage UK-US relations".
The changes requested were made in the book, because my publisher would
not publish without. That is why the truth needs to be out there on the
web.
It is on the face of it very strange that the British Government is
going after me over the Copyright Act and not the Official Secrets Act.
The answer is simple - under the Copyright Act there is no jury. A jury
would never convict for campaigning against torture, and be most
unlikely to accept that documents released cannot be published. The
table of changes requested by the government is not even a classified
document in the first place. But a single judge may be more malleable -
John Reid had put a huge effort lately into browbeating judges over
anything connected to the so-called War on Terror. As the government
know very well I have no money to pay a small, or even large fine, they
can get the book and documents banned and me in jail without having to
convince any jury of pesky citizens.
How to fight back?
Well, we must not let the documents disappear from the web. There is as
yet no legal ruling on these matters, Mr. Buttrill's claims are only
highly controversial legal contentions. So if you post the documents
pending a court ruling, there is a danger you may be contravening the -
civil, not criminal - law, but then again you may not. You would quite
likely receive a threatening letter from Mr. Buttrill. Now you have this
email from me, NSA and GCHQ are almost certainly tracking you, (they
can, incidentally, reciprocally spy in the other country for each other
and then swap the info, because neither needs a warrant to spy abroad),
but then they probably were already.
The publisher had firm and very expensive legal advice that it was not
contravening any civil or criminal law to publish in the book links to
web pages containing the documents. So you are almost certainly on safe
legal ground in publishing this link to the Dahr Jamail site if you do
not wish to mirror the docs yourself.
http://dahrjamailiraq.com/murray/
Feel free to publish this email and the letter from Mr. Buttrill [attached].
It might also be helpful if we urged people to contact him, by phone,
email or letter, and ask him complex questions about the fascinating and
difficult legal and ethical questions thrown up by the government's
position. As a government servant he's obliged to reply.
Finally, the government made plain to parliament that it would act
against the book itself if it was published. As it only came out on
Friday, no injunction yet but it could happen any time. So if you are
interested in getting it, buy now and beat the injunctions! It is
available from most online booksellers, though bookshops seem very
reluctant to stock it.
Many Thanks,
Craig Murray
========================================
As ever, if your name is on this list in error, or you wish to have your
email address removed from this list, please let us know.
--
ringverse
www.blairwatch.co.uk
The Letter Received By Craig Murray From Blair’s Government
I began this Post with a quotation from an American Hero and Martyr, Nathan Hale. To end this Post, I republish the following quotations from another American Hero, Patrick Henry. All quotations from Hale and Henry can be found at
“The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government - lest it come to dominate our lives and interests.”
Patrick Henry quote
“The liberties of a people never were, nor ever will be, secure, when the transactions of their rulers may be concealed from them.”
Patrick Henry quote
“Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains or slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take but as for me; give me liberty or give me death!”
Patrick Henry quote
“If this be treason, make the most of it!”
Patrick Henry quote
In 1981's 'Body Heat', Kathleen Turner said, "Knowledge is power".
T.A.B.A.C.C.O. (Truth About Business And Congressional Crimes Organization)
comments (3)
1. The Capt. left...
Sunday, 9 July 2006 11:37 am :: http://thecapt.blog-city.com
This Administration has walked all over the Constitutional Rights of the
people and the press. We're killing democracy at home while claiming to
want to spread it to the world.
2. M. Smith left...
Thursday, 23 November 2006 8:45 am
A Constitution is only a document to make ordinary citizens believe they
are protected from abuse by Government. In reality, Governments have laws
that circumvent any problems that may arise when a citizen invokes the
Constitution, to defend his basice rights. As an example of this, the
German Government uses a law dating from Hitler's period as head of State.
The legislation in question is the Law on Legal Advice 13th December 1935.
Any legal activity not of the Governments liking, is blocked because of the
binding allegiance of the Judiciary and the legal profession, in
conjunction with the Government. All three are protected by this law, to
the detriment of the citizen.
The crunch in this law is THESE ACTIVITIES, HOWEVER, MAY BE PROHIBITED. This means that anything in a legal sense which the Government does not like is stopped by this sentence.
There is no right to RESIST OVERTHROW of the Constitution when the Government is doing the OVERTHROWING by the use of this law.
3. Tabacco left...
Thursday, 23 November 2006 9:30 am :: http://tabacco.blog-city.com/
M. Smith: