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HALLELUJAH!!! PRO-AMNESTY AGJOBS SNEAK ATTACK DEFEATED IN SENATE! Good Republican, Bad Democrat? - RI10
HALLELUJAH!!!
PRO-AMNESTY
AGJOBS
SNEAK ATTACK
DEFEATED IN
SENATE!
Good Republican,
Bad Democrat?
- RI10
Tabacco: It is rare indeed that I get to praise a Republican and at the same time demean a Democrat. But this is that rare moment. However when it comes to the issue of Amnesty for Illegal Aliens, most Republicans are on the correct side of this issue: CON! It isn’t because they are protecting the American citizen; it’s because they recognize that poor Illegal Hispanics will become Democrats once they have the right to vote. So Republican motives are purely selfish.
George W. Bush, the current president, and John McCain, the wannabe president, are the two notable exceptions to this rule. You need look no further for an explanation than the failed “Dream Act”, which includes the provision that Illegals must either go on to higher education (for which they must spend some money, not be gainfully employed full-time and for which many would be unqualified by intellect and/or prior experience) or serve in the military (for which they will be paid right away). Which of those two options do you think is more likely?
Both Bush and McCain want to prop up our failing military numbers with Illegal Aliens; for them the votes are inconsequential. For those two pragmatists, it’s about volunteers willing to face death in OPEC countries, not votes! PURE & SIMPLE!
Conversely Democrats are on the wrong side of this issue for purely selfish motives also, not for any humanitarian reasons. They want those 12,000,000 votes in their column.
So much for humanitarianism or ethics among politicians!
Of course, not all Republicans are on the correct side of this issue: that world-renowned Foot Tapper, Larry Craig, assisted BAD DEMOCRAT DIANNE FEINSTEIN in attempting this quarterback sneak. Closeted Larry is still in the Senate, but his days are numbered. He couldn’t care less about increasing the Democratic constituency. It’s no skin off his nose. Again a politician picks the selfish way, not the moral or ethical way. You would die holding your breath, waiting for politicians to act in an ethical manner when that act is against their own best interests.
And of course GOOD REPUBLICAN JEFF SESSIONS’ motives of denying those poor Illegal Hispanic Aliens from becoming Democratic voters temper any effusive rhetoric on my part about his conduct because he has acted in a purely self-serving manner.
OK, you knew it had to be too good to be true that a Republican would act in a selfless manner, didn’t you!
http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/255001
Illegal Immigration, Identity Theft, AgJOBS,
War Funding and Amnesty
May 21, 2008 Posted 7 hours ago
Many have asked what illegal immigrants and identity theft have to do with an emergency war-funding bill and it is a legitimate question.
According to Admiral Mike Mullen, who is chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the emergency war-funding bill must be passed by Memorial Day or the Defense Department would have to delay paychecks beginning June 15, 2008.
Politics being what they are today, knowing the president cannot veto the war funding bill without endangering the troops overseas, that made this the perfect opportunity to attached an amendment to the bill which would grant temporary legal status to an estimated 1.35 million illegal-alien farm workers over the next five years. This number jumps to at least 3 million when children and spouses are factored in.
The Amendment is called AgJOBS and was attached to the war-funding bill by Senators Dianne Feinstein, California Democrat, and Larry Craig, Idaho Republican.
Not only would this bill, if successfully passed through the Senate, Congress, and signed by the president, grant temporary legal status to 3 million illegal aliens, but a clause in the bill also would have made illegal aliens that have committed identity theft, immune to prosecution for crimes such as stealing someone's Social Security number.
In researching this, I came across something else that was interesting.
In 2005, under the same conditions, the AgJOBS bill was attached to another Iraq war spending legislation, but failed to pass, but one specific Senator had some harsh words about attaching such a bill to war funding.
Senator Dianne Feinstein, on April 18, 2005, said, "This is not the place for this bill. I believe it is a mistake to pass this bill on an emer- gency supplemental that is designed to provide help for our military, fighting in extraordinary circumstances."
Evidently Feinstein was against it before she was for it.
Another clause in the AgJOBS bill provides tax-fraud amnesty, too.
Using Texas, which ranks 2nd in the nation for identity theft complaints, as just one example we see from Identity Theft 911:
Approximately 880,400 Texans became victims of identity theft in 2007. This is roughly equivalent to every citizen in Austin, Edinburg and Midland having their identities stolen in a single year.
According to Lt. Mark Elbert of the Brownsville (TX) Police Department, identity theft and illegal immigration go hand in hand and identity theft is one of the fastest growing crimes today.
If the AgJobs bill had passed, hidden in plain sight within an emergency war-funding bill, many of those responsible for causing Texas residents an estimated $435.7 million and 3.5 million hours in 2007, would be immune from prosecution.
The battle over the "extras" in the war funding bill that have nothing to do with funding the war has been long and tiresome, but eventually Majority Leader, Harry Reid was forced to strip the AgJOBS amendment out of the emergency war funding bill, which was only one hurdle since he left in a number of other controversial amendments.
Democratic leaders were forced to jettison provisions to award work permits for immigrant farm labor and seasonal workers just hours after beginning debate Tuesday on legislation to add domestic programs to President Bush's war request.
Harry Reid still put other "extras" up for a vote before approaching votes on the actual emergency war funding, in an attempt to get domestic funding attached to war funding before he would deal with military operations.
Reid brought up the domestic add-ons in an unusual move designed to win their adoption — over opposition from the White House and GOP conservatives — before turning to legislation providing $165 billion (€106 billion) to conduct military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan into next spring.
This latest push for amnesty was even opposed by Feinstein's Democratic colleagues, one of which was the chairman of the Senate Appropriations Committee, Sen. Robert Byrd, D-W.Va., who said, "No matter how one characterizes this enormous amendment, it still amounts to amnesty".
This is not the first time that these types of bills have been introduced and have either failed or been withdrawn.
In May of 2006 and 2007, the Senate attempted to pass legislation which some believed would give comprehensive mass amnesty to illegal aliens, that failed. And in September of 2007, the Senate tried to push through the DREAM Act, which would have given in-state college tuition for young illegal aliens. That too failed. (Correction made to last paragraph)
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0805/21/ldt.01.html
LOU DOBBS TONIGHT
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Aired May 21, 2008 - 19:00 ET
LOU DOBBS, CNN ANCHOR: Wolf, Thank you.
And tonight major defeat for the illegal alien lobby and its rather dishonest tactics in the U.S. Senate. Senator Jeff Sessions joins us. He led the successful fight against amnesty provisions being attached to the Iraq war-funding bill. He's among my guests and so is Senator Jim Webb, all of that, all the day's news and much more straight ahead.
ANNOUNCER: This is LOU DOBBS TONIGHT: news, debate, and opinion for Wednesday, May 21. Live from New York, Lou Dobbs.
DOBBS: Good evening, everybody.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
DOBBS: Well, after considerable objection, the Senate leadership late last night removed a farm worker AG bill illegal amnesty amendment that had been attached to the Iraq war-funding bill. But not before Senator Dianne Feinstein added her name to those, a growing list I might say, who want to stop me from speaking out on the issue of illegal immigration and border security all across the country. Senator Feinstein in a letter to me blasted me for reporting on her AG jobs amendment to the war funding bill, an amendment that would have provided amnesty for as many as three million illegal alien farm workers and their families.
In her letter, the senator said, "The legislation was not approved by the Appropriations Committee 'in the dark of night' as you said. The legislation was offered during an open meeting of the Senate Appropriations Committee in the early afternoon, with hundreds of people in attendance."
Well, Senator, the dark of night is a metaphor, regardless of the time of day, most of the senators didn't know what you were doing and the discussion of the amendment was not on any public calendar that I'm aware of. An issue of this importance to the nation deserves full public hearings, full debate on the floor of the Senate, not an attachment that I described as dishonorable to Iraq war funding bill.
Your letter states that legislation is not amnesty. It could pride legal status to millions of illegal aliens. If that's not amnesty, what is it? Fortunately Senator, your colleagues on the other side of the aisle and the voices of outraged Americans helped your leadership understand that it was time to reconsider and to remove that ill conceived amendment from the Iraq war funding legislation.
Senator Feinstein declined our offer to join me here. We understand that. We hope she'll reconsider. It's a subject that we believe really deserves all the illumination we can bring to it. We'll continue to do our very best to bring light to this subject.
Senator Jeff Sessions was on this program Monday night expressing his outrage at the AG jobs amendment and Senator Sessions, a leader in the fight to defeat the amendment, joining us here tonight.
First I want to say to you Senator, we all are grateful for your efforts and we commend you for it. Thank you for doing that and I just can't imagine how the Democratic leader ship, the leadership that participated in this would permit to it be attached to an appropriations bill, the Iraq war funding bill.
SEN. JEFF SESSIONS (R), ALABAMA: Thank you for sounding the alarm. When we found out it had been added on, there was no notice on it. They had no hearings on the implications of the legislation. I'm confident that no member of the appropriations committee read that 110-page bill language. It has some very terrible things in it and it was not as stated fundamentally.
Senator Feinstein is a great person. I really admire her and like her. But we disagree fundamentally on this. This cannot be sneaked through without debate and the consideration of the American people. No form of legalization of millions of people, or any kind of legislation for that matter needs to be passed until we have the opportunity to put language in that tightens up the illegality in the current system. You said a little earlier the question is do we want a legal system or not.
How do you amend a system that's lawless already in people don't obey the law at all?
DOBBS: You know the reality is whether we're talking about the background checks that would have been required, the rather sort of list that went out there but there's no discussion that citizenship and immigration services, the agency that would be required to do all that, they are overwhelmed now. They can't function in support of and processing of legal immigrants into this country. It's a shame.
For Senator Feinstein and Senator Craig to sponsor such legislation with as far as I know, maybe you can correct me. I'm unaware by any research done by the Congressional Budget Office or Congressional Research Services on the issue of illegal aliens working in agriculture, where they're need most, at what price they would be paid. I know of none of that done.
SESSIONS: I couldn't agree more. Fundamentally this is a huge issue that impacts America in a whole lot of ways. We need a serious on objective analysis of what's needed. They've been listening to some very aggressive groups, special advocacy groups, and some very aggressive western growers who really, whose interests are not the same necessarily as the American interests.
DOBBS: They're sure not. At a time when this country is in an economic slowdown, people are going to talk honestly here. As somebody that has worked with illegal aliens working in fields, you know, many years ago, I can still remember the heat and the sweat and the hard work. If anybody wants to do something for those people immediately, I would hope they would attach to the legislation reasonable pay. Doubling the wages, the last research I saw would add about ten cents to a head of lettuce.
We need to pay the people in those fields more money. They deserve living wages. I don't care whether it's $20, or $25 an hour. They deserve it and that's what we should be paying. That might get the western growers' attention. Nothing should be passed without mandating a significant increase in pay for the people doing that absolutely essential work.
How do you feel?
SESSIONS: I think that's right.
We're not allowing the free market to work. If it were working, wages would go up. But it's undercut because huge flows of illegal labor keep flooding in and alleviate the need for the businesses to pay higher wages. I don't think that's healthy. I agree with you.
DOBBS: Senator, where do we go from here? There are still some H2B provisions in this amendment some of those pages that are still attached to the Iraq funding bill. What will be the disposition there?
SESSIONS: A lot of us want to do some improvements to the H2B. But I don't think anybody that voted for us and a lot of people that have heard about it fully understand that it goes up five times the current law rate of unskilled workers that come under that program. Take the highest rate, 120-some odd thousand; it's two and a half times that at a time our economy is slowing down. I don't think it's smart to go that far.
DOBBS: Great when a genius gets a hold of legislation, isn't it? Senator, thank you. I won't ask you to respond to that, Senator.
Senator Jeff Sessions, again congratulations on your successful efforts to forestall the horrible decision. Our thanks.
SESSIONS: Thank you.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
DOBBS: Well, you may well be right. Because the numbers of Clinton supporters who said they will not vote for Obama are remarkable.
I've got to ask you. This business with the AG jobs bill, Senator Feinstein and Senator Craig pushing it through, the Democratic leadership putting it on the Iraq funding bill, you're a Democrat. Democratic National Committeeman, what's you're reaction to that?
ZIMMERMAN: It's appalling. It was one of the core principles of the 2006 campaign, which was not to do the Trojan gift proposal, in other words not to have these hidden measures in other proposals. So the idea of putting an amnesty provision in an Iraq funding bill.
ROLLINS: It's almost as bad as not basically voting for the war, instead of a supplemental after five years, why not put it in the defense appropriation and we wouldn't have one of these special bills that come at the end of the session. They become Christmas trees.
DOBBS: Carol, you've written extensively on illegal immigration into this country.
Are we ever going to get -- are we going to mature to the point politically that we can talk about the evidence, the facts and the public policy direction of illegal immigration without getting into race and all of these ethnocentric agendas?
SWAIN: Not unless we can get the racial interest groups out of it and get people moving towards thinking about what is in the national interest. And the politics we're having now is clearly not in the national interest. And I'm glad you're out there being the voice of the people, and I'm glad that they cannot slip things by you.
You keep your viewers alerted to what's happening. We need that.
DOBBS: Well you know what -- and some of our viewers are alerting us all the time. The -- audience of this broadcast is terrific. I keep saying it's the smartest audience in television news, it really is. A wonderful group of folks.
Tabacco: One final note! If you are on one side or other of an issue, you seek those, who agree with you regardless of their motives. If Blacks began a “Back to Africa” movement, I am certain they could count on support from the KKK, possibly even financial aid. That would not make the move a KKK initiative; it would still be a Black initiative. And the KKK’s support would not be because they were trying to be helpful to Blacks.
Sometimes different groups support the same point of view, but for different reasons. Calling everyone, who opposes Illegal Alien Amnesty, “Racist” is ludicrous and disingenuous. And not all the people, who supported that hypothetical “Back to Africa” movement, would be KKK members. Certainly you could never call Blacks, who wanted to go “Back to Africa” KKK members. That wouldn’t make sense, would it!
Tabacco: I consider myself both a funnel and a filter. I funnel information, not readily available on the Mass Media, which is ignored and/or suppressed. I filter out the irrelevancies and trivialities to save both the time and effort of my Readers and bring consternation to the enemies of Truth & Fairness! When you read Tabacco, if you don’t learn something NEW, I’ve wasted your time.
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