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SOPHISTRY UPDATE! Antonin Scalia To Leslie Stahl On '60 Minutes', "Well That's My View, And It Happens To Be Correct": Approves Bush Torture Tactics As "Not Punishment"? - McCain = More Scalias
SOPHISTRY
UPDATE!
Antonin Scalia To
Leslie Stahl On ‘60
Minutes’, “Well that’s
My View, And It
Happens To Be
Correct”: Approves
Bush Torture Tactics
As “Not
Punishment”? - If
You Want More
Scalias On Supreme
Court, Vote For John
McCain - RI10
http://www.democracynow.org/2008/4/29/headlines
Supreme Court Upholds Voter ID Law
The Supreme Court has upheld an Indiana law requiring voters to show photo identification. In a 6-to-3 ruling, the court agreed with Republican supporters that the voter ID law was necessary to prevent voter fraud and safeguard public confidence in the integrity of elections. Democrats and civil rights groups have opposed the law, saying it is a thinly veiled effort to suppress elderly, poor and minority voters—those most likely to lack proper ID and who tend to vote for Democrats. In his dissent, Justice David Souter said Indiana’s voter ID law “threatens to impose nontrivial burdens on the voting rights of tens of thousands of the state’s citizens”. According to the American Civil Liberties Union, Indiana has not prosecuted a single case of in-person voting fraud in recent history. Indiana is one of over twenty states that have passed voter ID laws. Other states are considering similar legislation.
Tabacco: Quick Question! How do you think Antonin Scalia voted on the Indiana ID law?
The law does not apply to absentee balloting, where election experts agree the threat of fraud is higher.
The Indiana law was passed in 2005. Democrats and civil rights groups opposed it as unconstitutional and called it a thinly veiled effort to discourage groups of voters who tend to prefer Democrats.
It was in effect during the 2006 elections when Democrats picked up three congressional seats in Indiana and won control of the state House of Representatives.
Justices Samuel Alito, Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas agreed with the outcome Monday, but wrote separately in favor of a broader defense of voter ID laws.
"The universally applicable requirements of Indiana's voter-identification law are eminently reasonable. The burden of acquiring, possessing and showing a free photo identification is simply not severe, because it does not 'even represent a significant increase over the usual burdens of voting'," Scalia said.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080428/ap_on_go_su_co/scotus_voter_id
Tabacco: Did anybody guess wrongly?
Antonin Scalia: Torture Is Not “Cruel and
Unusual Punishment”
And Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia has publicly claimed that the torture of prisoners does not violate the Eighth Amendment’s ban on “cruel and unusual punishment". Scalia’s comment came during an interview with Lesley Stahl on CBS’s 60 Minutes.
JUSTICE SCALIA: I don’t like torture. I’m—although defining it is going to be a nice trick. But, I mean, who’s in favor of it? Nobody. And we have a law against torture. But if the—everything that is hateful and odious is not covered by some provision of the Constitution.
LESLEY STAHL: If someone’s in custody, as in Abu Ghraib, and they are brutalized by a law enforcement person, if you listen to the expression, ‘cruel and unusual punishment’, doesn’t that apply?
JUSTICE SCALIA: “No, no!”
STAHL: “Cruel and unusual punishment?”
JUSTICE SCALIA: “To the contrary. You think—you think that you would—has anybody ever referred to torture as punishment? I don’t think so.”
STAHL: “Well, I think if you’re in custody and you have a policeman who’s taken you into custody—”
JUSTICE SCALIA: “And you say he’s punishing you?”
STAHL: “Sure.”
JUSTICE SCALIA: “What’s he punishing you for? You punish somebody—”
STAHL: “Well, because he assumes you, one, either committed a crime—”
JUSTICE SCALIA: “No, no.”
STAHL: “—or that you know something that he wants to know.”
JUSTICE SCALIA: “It’s the latter. And when he’s—when he’s—when he’s hurting you in order to get information from you—”
STAHL: “Yeah.”
JUSTICE SCALIA: “—you don’t say he’s punishing you. What’s he punishing you for? He’s trying to extract—”
Tabacco: If you didn’t understand before what a ‘Sophist’ is, you do now!
STAHL: “Because he thinks you’re a terrorist, and he’s going to beat the you-know-what out of you.”
JUSTICE SCALIA: “Anyway, that’s my view. And it happens to be correct.”
Tabacco: I don’t think this tête-à-tête between Stahl and Justice Scalia requires any edification whatsoever except to say that schmuck is on your Supreme Court! You don’t believe what he says, and he’s probably smarter than you – he doesn’t believe it either!
Scalia attempts to use SEMANTICS to escape through a minor point from 200+ years ago. Sophistry is the process of making a disingenuous argument, which is illogical, not to seek Truth but to WIN THE ARGUMENT!
PS – To clarify the “punishment’ issue to Antonin Scalia, as applied by Bush’s deviates at Guantánamo and Abu Ghraib, the “punishment” is applied because the Detainees have not as yet said what their interrogators wish to hear. If a Detainee "confesses" to whatever the interrogators are seeking, the PUNISHMENT CEASES! Or you can just call it "PREEMPTIVE PUNISHMENT" - you know what "preemptive" means, don't you, Justice Scalia? I hope that clarifies the matter for the “Honorable” Supreme Court Justice, Antonin Scalia!
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